Dating/Friendships

I often come off too strong too soon and scare the other person away; please help...

Estil17:
There is a major problem I seem to have and it really frustrates me as I feel like I keep making this same mistake over and over again. I often come on too strong too soon (online I mean) and I end up scarring the other person away :,(

Like, there was someone here who was really one of a kind, one in a billion, thought she might be "The One" but as I often do I stupidly came on too strong and she ended up ghosting me, even after she reassured me (because I kept asking to make sure I was doing everything right) that "You are fine" and she would say "I appreciate that". I mean, I thought maybe I had some appeal for her but...as I often do, I blow it. :,( And of course I've had more than my fair share of catfishers too I'm sorry to say.

I wish I could somehow learn from my mistakes and do better...I've been quite depressed and lonely lately (seasonal changes probably don't help that any) and it might be that it will soon be 2 1/2 years since my wife passed away. Still, can anyone help me be as appealing and persuasive and all that as I can? And try not to come off too strong too soon? I know that's my main problem by far...


Are you in therapy?
1 year

I often come off too strong too soon and scare the other person away; please help...

Estil17:
There is a major problem I seem to have and it really frustrates me as I feel like I keep making this same mistake over and over again. I often come on too strong too soon (online I mean) and I end up scarring the other person away :,(

Like, there was someone here who was really one of a kind, one in a billion, thought she might be "The One" but as I often do I stupidly came on too strong and she ended up ghosting me, even after she reassured me (because I kept asking to make sure I was doing everything right) that "You are fine" and she would say "I appreciate that". I mean, I thought maybe I had some appeal for her but...as I often do, I blow it. :,( And of course I've had more than my fair share of catfishers too I'm sorry to say.

I wish I could somehow learn from my mistakes and do better...I've been quite depressed and lonely lately (seasonal changes probably don't help that any) and it might be that it will soon be 2 1/2 years since my wife passed away. Still, can anyone help me be as appealing and persuasive and all that as I can? And try not to come off too strong too soon? I know that's my main problem by far...


Maybe repeatedly asking if you were interacting with her correctly gave off the wrong vibe.
1 year

I often come off too strong too soon and scare the other person away; please help...

Therapy doesn’t just stop when you don’t click well with your therapist. That just means you need to try someone else. Give it another try.
1 year

I often come off too strong too soon and scare the other person away; please help...

Estil17:
No but I do have mental/emotional issues (ADHD, Aspergers, PTSD to name a few) and I do have to take a few prescriptions to help it. I'm also legally disabled (SSDI) as well. I have tried therapy but it doesn't seem to do much good and worse, sometimes I come there and have nothing I can think of to talk about.

Forgive me I'm not very good at explaining things in such a way that doesn't come out wrong...


I have ASD and PTSD. I struggled a lot with relationships because of it. So I took a 5 year dating hiatus to work on myself. I struggled to understand social cues, so I learned what they were and how to communicate effective to smooth out misunderstandings. I have PTSD, so I learned healthy coping mechanisms as well as dealing with my trauma.

I'm not 100% better. More like 60% to 80% depending on the day. And I am always trying to improve.

It doesn't sound like you are ready to date yet. It's not because of your mental illness. Instead, it doesn't sound like you've learned to self regulate.

A good significant other is a partner. They go throw the good, bad, and ugly of life with you as you support each other. However, they cannot fix you. If you go into a relationship hoping it'll make you better, that's putting an unfair expectation on the other person.
1 year

I often come off too strong too soon and scare the other person away; please help...

Letters And Numbers:
Therapy doesn’t just stop when you don’t click well with your therapist. That just means you need to try someone else. Give it another try.

Estil17:
I don't know what it is they could tell me that I don't already know...and I don't think they'd be much help on these kind of matters.


It honestly depends on the therapist. Some are good, some suck. But sometimes it's a simple case of not clicking. And when that happens, you try again.
1 year

I often come off too strong too soon and scare the other person away; please help...

Letters And Numbers:
Therapy doesn’t just stop when you don’t click well with your therapist. That just means you need to try someone else. Give it another try.

Estil17:
I don't know what it is they could tell me that I don't already know...and I don't think they'd be much help on these kind of matters.


I’m not going to diagnose you online, but you seem to clearly be dealing with grief and trauma. Therapy is pretty helpful with both of those, but not every therapist is a trauma expert. And not every therapist is an expert at working with neurodivergent adults. You need to do a little research and be patient and be open to therapy. Going in thinking that there’s nothing they can teach you that you don’t already know is the wrong approach. We don’t take that approach with any other medical (or mechanical) problem. Be humble and let a professional talk to you with an open mind, but don’t expect that every therapist will be the perfect fit. You might need to try someone new if it’s not working out. I just left a therapist of over 10 years because we weren’t making progress any more, they weren’t challenging me. It happens.
1 year

I often come off too strong too soon and scare the other person away; please help...


Munchies:
I have ASD and PTSD. I struggled a lot with relationships because of it. So I took a 5 year dating hiatus to work on myself. I struggled to understand social cues, so I learned what they were and how to communicate effective to smooth out misunderstandings. I have PTSD, so I learned healthy coping mechanisms as well as dealing with my trauma.

I'm not 100% better. More like 60% to 80% depending on the day. And I am always trying to improve.

It doesn't sound like you are ready to date yet. It's not because of your mental illness. Instead, it doesn't sound like you've learned to self regulate.

Estil17:
Oh I'm nowhere near the "dating" part yet...for right now I'm just trying to find to get good at the online part!


So, what is your goal? What do you want?
1 year

I often come off too strong too soon and scare the other person away; please help...


Munchies:
I have ASD and PTSD. I struggled a lot with relationships because of it. So I took a 5 year dating hiatus to work on myself. I struggled to understand social cues, so I learned what they were and how to communicate effective to smooth out misunderstandings. I have PTSD, so I learned healthy coping mechanisms as well as dealing with my trauma.

I'm not 100% better. More like 60% to 80% depending on the day. And I am always trying to improve.

It doesn't sound like you are ready to date yet. It's not because of your mental illness. Instead, it doesn't sound like you've learned to self regulate.

Estil17:
Oh I'm nowhere near the "dating" part yet...for right now I'm just trying to find to get good at the online part!


Not trying to be rude or dismissive, but maybe a fetish website is not the right place to learn how to express yourself online. Why not start with a space that’s about hobbies or something less heavy?
1 year

I often come off too strong too soon and scare the other person away; please help...


Letters And Numbers:
Not trying to be rude or dismissive, but maybe a fetish website is not the right place to learn how to express yourself online. Why not start with a space that’s about hobbies or something less heavy?

Estil17:
Because I do feel passionately about my eh, special interests in my profile (I don't know if "fetish" is exactly right). I already have a couple of forums I frequent for my "normal" hobbies.


My guess would be that trying to learn how to communicate one-on-one with people on a fetish website is doing it on hard mode. Just get used to the idea that people get cold feet and disappear off this site, or will think you’re into weird sex shit in a different way than they’re into weird sex shit and get spooked. Or that fundamentally there are people on here because they can’t have this fetish be a part of their real life and don’t want to blur those lines. The word fantasy is right in the title.

I guess my one other tip would be that you’ve made your grief (which I’m very sorry for, I can’t even imagine) the main character across half a dozen threads this morning. That’s heavy stuff, man. Posting in the forum is fun, post more often about stuff that isn’t always so heavy. You don’t need to hide your loss but it doesn’t have to be so up front. I know it’s harder around the holidays. (You can post in the Story of the Month threads whenever you like! They’re nice!)
1 year

I often come off too strong too soon and scare the other person away; please help...


Munchies:
So, what is your goal? What do you want?

Estil17:
To ultimately find my Princess Charming and live happily ever after of course! No matter how long it ends up taking...


Can't have a princess charming if you aren't a prince charming yourself. Sort yourself out first.

We actually spoke once in chat. You came right out the gate with the horny, and you didn't check my profile first. That's two big mistakes right there. Your desperation is putting you in situations you don't even need to be in.
1 year
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